Cast & Malaysian Indians - Still !!

First things first , before go in depth of this topic , let we see few definition and scope of this article :

Cast - In the Hinduism, there are casts. A cast is a rank that is given to a human already when it’s born.

Scope of this article : Rational thinking , Castism among Malaysian Indians ONLY .

This topic been in my mind since very long time , now the time come for to write about this sensitive issue . As usual , my idea for each topic provoked by my personal experience . Few weeks back , when and i and friends lepak(chit-chat) in mamak stall , we end up discussing about this cast things .

Even when im young teenager , my father try to teach me , about this cast related things , whenever he open this topic , i just will walk away , i simply don't want to know about cast , i afraid i also will end up being like them , practising Hindu cast system in 21st century .

Are this cast system still exist among Malaysian Indians? still practised ? You will be surprised if you get know that , Malaysian Indians still practising this nonsense until today , but i silence , very subtle , in other word , under the blanket , lol . Ya we can't see it officially , stated in any form , or asked openly . But this system still very much alive , don't believe me ?ok . Try this , especially when marriage time , if it is a love marriage , the hottest issue among the adults will be the cast of the guy site or girl site . I even got many personal experience , even thou my parents are friendly and OPEN MINDED , one day when i forced to argue about this cast issue to my father , the words he say that " IF you love and married a girl from a wrong cast , i won't even enter you house " i always will remember that words . I also find out that , many BF and GF , include my friends ,who in serious relationship , they already discus about this cast things , to satisfies their parents who blindly following the cast system and to make sure no problem appear from both site when getting marry in future . There are many other experience i faced regarding this cast , but it quite sensitive and hard to explained .

Now we look this system in more logical and rational point of view :
"At the beginning there were only four casts; the priest cast, the warrior cast, the worker cast, and the servant cast. When these casts were gradually broken, new casts came into being, and by the year 1900 there were about 3000 different casts in India."( sited , click here )

We Malaysian Indians origin from india , so we adopt almost ever tying from there . Ok , let us don't talk about India , no point talk about Hindus in India . Im not a Hinduism prof to do research and write about Hinduism , as a simple and humble Hindu , i only can think rationally in the sense of imagination about what happen thousands of years back .

As you can see , the fact above , originally there been only 4 cast in Hinduism . I admire Hinduism , because , each term or things( adat resam) we follow ,there will be good explanation behind it . That's the beauty of Hinduism . For sure , there will be very good reason behind the Cast System which formed by our great great ancestors .

In my point of view ....... In the ancient time , when the word "science" not exist, lol , people been live in the group base on their occupation , wealth and influence . For example , a man who work in grave yard , stay outside of the village , and the businessman live in the middle of the village , the well known worrier stay with king , and the brahmins stay in temple area . when time past by , when the Aryans conquer India , the Cast system been implemented to class this peoples . Because the normal labours not clean because of their work nature , they restricted from enter temple and other clean places . The worriers and businessman important for the village/country , so they given special priority . And the brahmins become soo special because they always with god/temple . On that time , no detergents for the labours to clean their self , dirty people stay dirty , no education that time , unknowledgeable people , stay unknowledgeable . In the long run it become a hard core CAST SYSTEM , and low cat people been discriminated in many ways . (ooopppfff , i had a very difficult time to explain this , not easy )

Now back to present tense . Im really sorry if i offend anyone , i have to say this : Preciously we can notice , so call low cast people's life style , house environment , and talking dialect , will make others to think twice to mix with them . Now everything change , modern live make everything look the same , having the same lifestyle , education level, and talking dialect , everything becoming more harder to be differentiated .

Again , lol , in my point of view , in this modern era , people who got good education , wealth , and high influence , are considered as the high cast of this century . People who don't have all of this , will be know as low cast .

A question for people who still following Cast System .
If you from a high cast people , what your cast can do for you ?
  1. Can get a lot of a land form state office?
  2. money for no reason from any bank?
  3. a degree or masters without going to collage/university?
  4. high pay salary , without any qualification ?
NONE of above , lol . Than , What make you still follow this useless CAST SYSTEM ??

7 comments:

Anonymous said...

In my opinion... cast are often judged by elderly ppl, and to those who are modern and well educated wont be into cast and judgmental of a persons worthyness. Unless those educated ppl are taught from the roots on obeying the cast rules... So to me, its useless pointing this out to elders who dont read such issues.

Anonymous said...

hmmm...you do have a point about castes, but, i dont think caste is an issue amongst Malaysian Indians, we are much dumber thn that, we divide ourselves base on languages.

TheEyes said...

Cast still alive in Malaysia brader!
I got the experience, where my frenz talking about some marriage that they have attended. and the couples having problem with their parents and relative. They will show 10cent face and a "karat" look!

my opinion is simple only.

Got two cast: Male ( aan jathi)
Female (penn Jathi)

Now guys go and find your Ponjathi! LOL!

Anonymous said...

shara :
As you say , there are many educated indians who still following this cast system

the truth:
we Indians really divided in many ways , from language to even ..cast .

eyes:
yes brader , aan jathi and pen jathi, hope we young generation not follow this system in the future and trep in elder peoples tactical play .

Anonymous said...

Hi guys..in my opinion..i think there r alot of people out there still practising cast system..especially younger generations..i'll tell u my own experiences as eg.

i dunno what cast i am..my parents never told me before..untill nw..they nvr did..

when i was in the age of 10, i had a friend..the first ever question she asked me was, "hey what's ur cast...my cast is XXXX..so what's urs?"..well i dunno hw to answer her question..so i kept quiet..i asked my parents..they laughed..they answered.."namme ellam manithan jaathi"...

at the age of 18 i wentbto coll..i made friends with some bunch of idiotic indian girls...1 day this cast issues come out in our conversation..they all started to discuss about their cast proudly..they asked me..i said i aint know..they said i',m lying..then one of the girl said i might be a pariah...oni pariah never want to reveal their cast identity..i was pist off...who da hack is she to decide what cast i am...

in another case...i had a new roommate few months back..so called bhraman..well meat eating bhraman who do nt even pray actually...she was ashamed to admit me as her roommate...OMG..what's wrong with this people..

basically i was treated badly because of this cast system by these bunch of idiots..
some of the guys and girls out there falling in love with each other after knowing their cast..mayb its to avoid family problems.

well what am i trying to say here is...cast system is well rooted in our society..mayb only some of us are not practising or even talk about it..

Anonymous said...

to anonymous:

wow , even at the age of 10 you already got this kind of experience , thats early . And you have come across many cast practicing young indians .

ya true , nowaday many youngster famlling in love after knowing the cast to avoid family problems .

You lucky man , your parent only teach you about one cast all this time ," masihen jathi" , that kind of mentality that we need among our Malaysian Indians .

I hope i can come across , young indian who will ask my cast , i will "tuppe" tehm until they forget their own cast once it for all , lol .

Heng on bro , there are some activist like you and me in this young indian community , to support each other .

Anonymous said...

i personally hate the whole idea abt the cast system...jadi n matham.. evrythin.my lover of 3 years is a xxx n im a mix wic makes me not pure... but i dont seem to bothered o even give a damn abt it.. bt he does n he often brings up the story abt how i must learn to talk his language n how i shud convert so tht he wudnt be an outcast in his family n so on.. he even often speaks of my skin colour for not being fair well he is educated and can even be called an intelect... tough y r there still such ppl? bt he says he loves me.. doesnt tht sound dumb?there's too much controversy caused by even bringin up this matter.. so wat shud i do?
he is a nice guy outside bt only wen u get close to him u act notice tht he is a fanatic...he puts up a play around his friends being somesort of a perfect guy.. altough his flaws mite b worst than the rest... tough he is nice if he aint no fanatic... v have been together for 6 years from high school altough i guess the only thing salvaging our relationship is because i never speak out my opinion..