Time past by , the election finishes , and the apportions fully untiles the Indians and also MIB . After the election Malaysian Indians include many MIB delight with the election's result . The apportion get a historical win , took over five states . Many promises made by the apportionnoticeable promises :
party , before election to the Indians . Most
- Release five hindraf leaders form ISA
- No temple will be demolished
- etc ......
Lastime , before election , MIB's point out and question each misleading of Barisan National , untill some MIB's voice out their opinion like an real reporter . What happen to thous MIB's now , we can notice allot of misleading Pakatan Rakyat's actions , and still many promises stay as unfulfilled promises . Why no MIB really questioning this as lastime? Are we MIB's only will question the misleading on BN and not Pakatan Rakyat ? Is Anuar Ibrahim our neighbour , or Karpal sigh is our uncle ? So what the reason make we MIB's staying away from questioning the misleadings of the Pakatan Rakyat ?
Most our news mediams , which only cover the goodness of BN , we MIB's should not be like that but be more fair about our articles rather than looks like official medium for PAKATANRAKYAT only . Be fair , question any issues without differentiating BN or PAKATAN RAKYAT . DON'T BE BIAS......
28 comments:
The most idiotic post i ever seen in Malaysian Indian blogs...
remember that the temple demolished in Ampang nothing to do with State government, Menteri Besar never ordered to do so... the one who we must blame here is racist Ampang local counsil, he had been suspended..
In that case, YB Manikavasagam had thretened to resign if no proper action taken against the demolishement...
HEY TOWNGUY, i wanna ask u how many MIC or BN MPs had threatened to resign although hundreds of temples destroyed by BN government over 50 years...
WHO ARE BIAS??? ITS YOU TOWNGUY....
Pakatan Rakyat is not federal government to release the HINDRAF leaders..... they only can pressure government to do so...
i think u noe that PR is doing great job from the beginning...
I wanna ask u again hw may MIC MPs signed petition for abolish ISA???
actualy I noe that MIC just making some dramas out there to retain the popularity that have been lost since 25 november 2007...
DEI TOWNGUY, YOU HAVE NO RIGHTS TO SOUND ANY BLOGGERS THAT WRITING THEIR OPINIONS....
MIB never bias, we only writinf the truth!!
to mr.vasantaroa
temple issue,
ya MB of Selangor not ordered demolish the temple , but that ampang local council under the control of Selangor State goverment? Don't give reason like , " Local caoucil officers demolish the temple without inform to state goverment " , its all just silly kind of reasons . What If the same thing happen lastime , we MIB's jump up n down .
ISA issue :
ya i knowledgeable enough to know , ISA under federal government , state goverments can't do anything about it , just can pressure . Thats what im talking about , how good pakatan rakyat pressuring? 1 day a article in news paper to release 5 hindraf leaders by pakatan rakyat ? at least 1 week twice ? nope , who doing the pressure , HINDAF itself rite . Im not saying PK not pressuring , but not aggressive enough to reflect , the same spirit when they promise . We(MIB's) already bash the MIC enough until they loose the poll , no point talking about people not in power .
Conclusion to vasantarao:
if sir notice or not , i my self a MIB , if you notice im blogging since MIB been founded . Im also been , and being support hindaf with my articles . As a blogger and part of family MIB family , it is my responsibility to blow the whistle of awareness .
Fact :
if im not mistaken , in your blog , your 1st post was on this year september .
my first post was last january , most of it supporting hindraf and PR .
Note :
i am also one of your royal blog visitor , admiring your and your groups work , doing wonderful job , writing blog in tamil , not an easy job .
avoid :
you looks profesional , but sound so typical with "DEI TOWNGUY" . pls put your feelings down , when you need your mind to think .
at last , thanks for your comment , my fellow family member of Malaysian Indian Blogger . " It Not easy to voice out a rational thinking " .
dear Townguy,
As a member of MIB, I have a few reservations about this article. Here they are, in detail.
1) MIB wasn't solely founded by Raja per se. It was born out of the collective efforts by those who are the current administrators, with Raja being the initiator of the whole idea.
2) Quote, "Most of the news covered by MIB's , are about , weakness of rulingHindraf activities , and other politic stuffs which favorable to the apposition parties", unquote.
This is not the case with MIB. MIB remains apolitical, and no posts concerning political affiliation is allowed in MINDSBLOG. Members of MIB are free to post any politically aligned article on their own blogs, but not on the MIB blogsite.
3) Quote, "MIB's point out and question each misleading of Barisan National ", unquote. Please note that "MIB's" and "MIBs" hold different meanings in the English language. You may have wanted to say that Indian Bloggers in general have questioned BN, BUT the incorrect punctuation that you used infer that MIB (i.e. the group) is the one that had questioned BN. This projects an image that MIB is politically aligned, which is not true.
4) Please refrain from using MIB when you want to refer to Indian Bloggers. MIB points to the association, and not individual members. We have members from both sides of the political divide, and also non-partisan members who blog in many different niches. Thus, the mention of MIB and other political issues hand-in-hand is seriously detrimental to our objective of being a social and apolitical group. I do not know if you are register within MINDSBLOG. But when you say that you are one of the MIBs, you may mean that you are an Indian Bloggers, but that does not mean that you are neccesarily from the MIB group from MINDSBLOG. So, this may lead to confusions.
5) With all being said, your title itself is detrimental to us (when I say "us", I mean you, me, and all other MIB members). We are not bias, as we do not actively support political issues. Our aim is to be active on social issues which can help uplift the Indian community, and as such, we will participate in any activities that proves to be beneficial to the society at large, irrespective of political affiliation.
6) Please also improve the English used. I am not trying to undermine you, as that is not my intention. Please understand that a small difference in spelling can give a totally different meaning, and that might not reflect the true issue that you are trying to bring up. In a worst case scenario, this might even lead to rifts between the blogging community. You may make an honest mistake, but it maybe falsely interpreted by some people.
I hope I have been clear enough. It is not my intention to be negative, but since we are members of the same demographic, I am obliged to provide you with the other side of the story. Please do not take this the wrong way. I believe that before we start whacking people online, we must give each other the chance to clear things out.
I am writing this as a member of MIB, and also as an Indian blogger. My views do not necessarily reflect the views of the administrators of MIB, though I feel that as a member, I am obliged to clear any misconceptions. For further explanations, you may contact our administrators at the MINDSBLOG site.
Thank you.
so what Townguy???
u do your part..
YOU DOESN'T NEED TO BLAME (MIB) AS BIAS!!!
no one in MIB directed its member to support PR n HINDRAF....
my answer to you was clear....
YOU ARE BIAS!!
hey u even cant answer my questions properly lar???
then don't need to blame anyone, look at urself first...
to vasantarao applasamy and kavi :
i agreed that , we(MIB) not actively talking about politic now . but if you not remember , you can look back at many Malaysian indian's blog before march 2008 , is mostly political base ,
yes now , we not actively talking politic , but i just asking you guys compare and see , the differences between now and before election . That point of time we actively question any misleading of the leaders , why not we doing the same now? If you a MIB who not interested in politics , than im not talking about you .
Ya no MIB admin ask to post political base articles , yet we did it voluntarily for the good of indian community in whole.
in this post , i talked about most MIBs , not ALL MIBs .
to vasantaroa especially , im am doing my part , creating awareness among MIBs .
thanks for the comment kavi ,
vasantarao ... thanks to .
i think u still havent gotten my point. Let me put it in a simple manner.
When you mention MIB, it automatically refers to the association of Malaysian Indian Bloggers (MIB), whose blog is at www.mindsblog.com. MIB, in this context, DOES NOT refer to individual indian bloggers who are malaysians.
Now, you should put it clearly that you are referring to individual indian bloggers. Using "MIB" in your article is wrong. Your sentences are wrongly put and this gives an image that MIB is politically aligned.
So, I hope you can do ammendments to the article as soon as possible.
kavi, i think u are getting wat town guy saying wrong...he was refering abt the MIB which was earlier found by raaja and shashi if m nt mistaken..mindsblog is just few month old, so please dont confuse urself seriya....wat he refer to himself as MIB as jsut malaysian indian bloggers and for your info, MINDSBLOG have not registered in any where except a dotcom to claim the copyrights for not others to use the term MIB.
vasantarao, neenge rombe nallavaru saarr..panbaanavaru, buttisaali, maariyaatheyaane teacher....hats off la...
replying this cuz i forget the check on the email follow up of this blog post...sry for empty post
overall, my personal opinion... yen pa INDIANS kulle adicikiringa..
SAMATANAM pls....
to kavi :
ya i understand what you trying to say .
originaly , MIB , founded by raja , before election days . If you look at the member of the post thous days covers allot about political news .
The thing is now it is a offical MIB blog , yet if you notice , the members are still the same . But now . most of them talk more general issue than politic.
you can check the blogroll here:
http://www.mindsblog.com/index.php/blogroll/
Member of MIB reflects the MIB as a whole , hence i think it is not wrong to say , Malaysian Indian bloggers as MIBs .
special thanks for for viknes :
thanks to understand what i trying to say , i know the origin of the MIB , and mindsblog.
@viji: townguy is clear at his point and i appreciate that there are still bloggers like him are around and nt blindly sucking up the BN or PKR. got wat i mean?he is not tryin to fite pa...as what mr rao claim, raajarox or MIB has their rights to support who they want, same goes to mr townguy as well..athu yennala, aluku oru nyaanyamm..
guys, blogosphere is like ocean, anyone can access it, the more we argue and "tuppufy" each other, the more our unity gonna be broke down by others...
i've notice one thing, mr rao seems to be a strong supporter of PKR not Strong patriot, u noe why, cuz he doesn't speak for the nation but siding political parties...a true patriot speaks the truth, have u forgetten what anwar was before '98?? now he seems to be mr nice guy and so call nation and indians saviours...my foot!!! go on and support blindly,indians are just too easyly get fooled by sentiments..there will be another temple in bkt gasing goidn down, go on support who u tink is rite who can do shit for us, and end of the day another rally will be organised against PKR...go on and get more tear gas, this is wat all tamilian deserve is it?everywhere tamilians are eelecha vaayee a?tink and react la...please la...i noe this comment aint gonna stop most of them and guess wat, im gonna be tagged as MIC cronies (mr rao's fav word) together with u, townguy...hahahha...happy blogging
lol.. abang kabilaaannn... abang kabilan tak tau baca ka? uni mana belajar ini. when the dude said MIB , he meant malaysia indian bloggers at large. not MINDSBLOG u dumb fuck
MIB from day one means Malaysian Indian Bloggers..
Abang kabilan dah register itu society ka? belum kan. so anda boleh suthu muduran :)
Vasantaro telugan.. ennge yaaru suniye umbe vanthinge?
black ass, please dun use such word la..its hurting others feelings rite...
whatever.. its hard to accept the truth for some people....
Neway, Happy blogging!!
Townguy thanks for not removing the comment...
hahaha....
I know u did it, dont act like a good boy now...
so what???
it wontspoil my popularity and crediblity....
thank you...
to vasantaroa :
what you talking about?
you know or not , i wont block any comments , once you comment it will appear .
What i did ?
each any every comment you made , still here untouched .
ya i admit you famous , especially blog in tamil , great job .
to vikness:
thanks allot , again .
what to do , we ask people think rationally , this what we get .
oh well...
i apologize for getting things wrong. After all, everythg is still based on personal perception. I welcome the explanations by Vicknes and Townguy, and appreciate their diplomatic stance.
to kavi :
nothing to be apologized , because , as you say ,everythg is still based on personal perception .
So no one correct , and no one rite either .
thanks for the comments and your participation .
to kavi :
nothing to be apologized , because , as you say ,everythg is still based on personal perception .
So no one correct , and no one wrong either .
thanks for the comments and your participation .
finally, u guys samatanam edy. thats good to c... stop the fighting..
UNITY nu pesuna mathum patatu...
I think its a natural process. quite a number of malaysian indian blogs (I called it MIBs) began as part of of the revolution (if i may call it) that started in between aug 2007 and march 2008. Not all blogs were focused on politics. Some covered anything and everything, while others were personal blogs where politics were just topics of the day/week/season. In fact, we can say that even MIC politicians started blogging just before and after march 2008.
The mindsblog group, which came from MIB group (correct me if i'm wrong) does not represent the majority because there's no count of the number of MIBs at the moment. A list of about 50 MIBs (which include at least 2 pro-MICs) does not represent anything significant since we could be having 1000 MIBs out there. in fact, i belief one of the positive outcome of HINDRAF is the birth of more bloggers/internet users. Hopefully these group of people can expand their use of internet to more than just blogging. research, e-commerce, networking are among the few things can be done.
Now, back to the issue of some MIBs being biased. I suppose its possible. On the other hand, its also possible that they view the problem happening in pakatan states differently. You highlighted two issues - ISA detention pressure and Ampang temple.
I agree on the temple demolition. Not on the demolition itself because it has been proven that it was done without knowledge of ADUN/MP/councillor. my unhappiness is the lack of transparency on the follow-up reports and actions. After 1.5 months, there's no news. No reply from Teresa, Ronnie or even Xavier. Itu report pun tarak nampak.
On the ISA, nothing much can be done. only candlelight vigils and protests. any notice to discuss in parliament is rejected by the speaker. if approved also, won't get support.
anyhow, its a good observation.
hello towny,
i strongly believe that you are in a very confused state here.
i am looking tru all the malaysian indian blogs atleast once a week.
I see almost 99.9% are still IN TRACK.
only some pemuda and putera bloggers are posting the other way. and they started blogging or shall i say forced to blog after political tsunami hit them to death. i think one of the MIB starwalt b mahendran of bolehland is one of them since he is putera mic exco member.
besides that i only came across one MIB who is pro-BN who holds no portfolio in mic. i am referring to the the blogger punithan shan who going great leghnth tarnishing pakatan's name. I think he failed miserably since he is outnumbered. so he is on the loosing side.
I always had good impression on your writings. but now i think your are joining the loosing side my brother.
I think its you who should come back on track, not the MIBs.
thank you,
kumaraguru
sentul
kumaraguru :
im confused with you now bro.
don't tag me as pro-BN or Pro-bla bla .
im not joining anyone , im not in pemuda mic or what .
winning or loosing is not my concern .
Im just asking , my fellow MIBs , don't blindly only support on side .
BE FAIR to all .....
thanks for comment broter .
wow . ivelo comments. interesting.
I agree with Mr.Poobalan's comment.
Good observation by towns guy.
And MINDSBLOG reps in this blog, please grow up!..
Valghe ! Valarghe!
Townguy,
Good one Bro. Why not we be Independent in our views. Keep it up.
Vasantarao appalasamy; Upcoming TEACHER.Guys, do you want teachers with this kind of attitude? RACIST!!! I think please put up the slur of racism to yourself. I think you are equivalent to the racist teacher in Selangor. Why are we blaming MIC for all the things. Why not blame us since we ourself(VASAN) is SO.
AMPANG temple breaking!!! Not blaming state goverment, then BLAME who? Who is entirely responsible? Can I say that the state government has been negligent? I think its true. They are so. Anyway, only suspension?? Suspension only. Where is the reports? Publish it!!!
thanks to the comment : Novin , nudist
You will all get a chance to vote soon. Just make sure you are registered. Then you can vote for BN again, if you are not outraged by the lembu business going on, including the NFC case, a DPM who says he is a Malay (but not a malaysian) etc or you can vote for the PR (with all its flaws).
So long as Indians make it hard for BN, Indians will get something. If you make it easy, they will forget very soon and start playing merry hell (may be with temple closedowns, etc.
BN forgets easily about those on the margins, like Indians). BN is also clever at making sweet promises.
The choice is yours.
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